Ramos and Alonso get deliberate red cards.
I think it's pretty funny how ramos shakes the refs hand after being shown the red

Definite cheating. But its been done before. While the bodies that run football are as weak and feeble as they are now, expect Madrid and Moroniho to get away with this one.

Id like to see UEFA ban both players for 3 games, as thou they had got a straight Red card.

As ever Jose is the ultimate win at all costs manager which is why is is top of the tree when it comes to football management.

However, this has allowed him to be wide open to strong criticism from those he has replaced as the very best, and they have not been slow to stick the knife, which in turn has helped to again take the spotlight off their weak management.

I don't think it is neither, it's unsportsmanlike and it doesn't look good for the game, but it's not really cheating. It's up there with professional fouls and diving and the ball going out of play and both players saying it went off the other player. It also was so obvious that you can't say it was brilliant. You would think if it was planned they would have been a bit more smart about it.

It has been done before and the parties were fined and that's what will likely happen here. uefa doesn't like setting precedents.

I was surprised that Wenger got involved in this, but he's having a bad week and at times seems to me to be losing it. Although he did say he had thought about doing the same thing.

Mourinho was given a two-match ban, although the latter is deferred for a probationary period of three years. He was also fined €40,000 (£33,473).

Alonso and Ramos were fined €20,000 (£16,738) each, Iker Casillas was fined €10,000 (£8,370) and Jerzy Dudek was fined €5,000 (£4,185).

The red cards given to Alonso and Ramos still stand and they will be suspended for one Champions League match.


So basically uefa fine Real Madrid about £60,000 and Alonso, Ramos and Mourinho miss a game their not all that bothered about.

If you want fines that hurt, it has to be a weeks wages or more. £10k???? Thats less than half a days work. They literally earn that in one nights sleep.